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wicklore
2010-07-31 01:02:09
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X marks the spot: KNOCKEIRKY
Something big is happening in the world of Irish hills and Mountains. It's unfolding as we speak over on the Suggestions Forum of MountainViews. I'm bringing it over onto this General Forum as it's ready for general discussion. The big event is the pending addition of a new summit to the MountainViews list. Simon will of course make the decision but we are working to gather the info to present the case.

MV member Conor74 recently queried whether Knockeirky in the Caha's was eligible to join the list of 'Arderins' - that is a hill between 500 and 599 metres height with a prominence of 30 metres. Knockeirky had puzzled both myself and MV member madfrankie in the past, so Conor74's query put the spotlight back on the hill. madfrankie had also recently raised this issue on flickr after visiting the hill and getting GPS data that suggested the hill had a 30-40 metre prominence above the col, which would qualify it for inclusion on the MV list.

The prominence of a hill is measured by how high it rises above the col that connnects it to the nearest higher hill. The nearest higher hill that Knockeirky is connected to by a col is nearby Cushnaficulla. The col, marked with an X on the image, lies just above a little lake. The col appears to be about 545 metres in height, meaning Knockeirky, at 577 metres, would have a prominence of 32 metres. madfrankie measured the prominence at 40 metres, again comfortably within the range. MV member jackill has gallantly offered to give up his planned weekend of simple living to go and get one more set of GPS data. This should confirm Knockeirky's eligibility to join the exclusive list of MountainViews summits!

The reason for the uncertainty is that you cannot rely on OSI maps to work out the precise height of a specific spot, and this col is quite a specific place. We need a few GPS measurements to get a good average reading.

Perhaps to say something big is happening may be an overstatement to some, but it is exciting to be on the verge of adding a new summit. If eligible, it will bring the list of Arderins to 407, and the total number of MountainViews summits to 1055.
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