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wicklore
2010-02-09 20:01:52
Quantity verses quality
I'm glad to hear Bray Head is a pleasant destination on a winters day -On a weekend in the middle of the summer it can be a nightmare. The area overlooking Bray is one of the few hills in Ireland where I've somewhat feared for my safety - not from dizzy drops or crumbling rock - rather from lager swilling gangs on a day out and having their version of fun, and leaving havoc in their wake.

In relation to the criteria MV uses to calculate prominence - I think we should hear from Simon on that one. I'm just happy to whip out the maps and check whenever someone raises a query about a hills' inclusion. Padodes raises the interesting point around applying a purely mathemathical approach. This indeed excludes many hiils that are far more deserving of inclusion than some of the boring larger hills. But if MV doesn't apply a formula, then what could they use to decide a hills inclusion? Lets hear from Simon!

The issue of finding the col between a hill and it's nearest higher neighbour does indeed throw up some crazy situations. Take Lugnaquillia -it's nearest highest neighbour is in Kerry. Slieve Donard looks to Lugnaquillia. Galtymore looks to either Kerry or Lugnaquillia. As padodes says, the nearest higher neighbour is not always in the immediate vicinity. Taken at it's extreme, Mount Everest is the only mountain on earth with no higher hill from which to calculate it's prominence.

But who can, and will, propose a system that pleases everyone and includes everyones choice? Perhaps one answer is that everyone has their own list of preferred hills, and simply uses MV to share this with everyon else?
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Exploration of Wicklow Head from the north.
simon3 20 hours ago.
As you will immediately see from the track this was an exploration of what is possible thoroughly exploring various d... walk, Len: 6.6km, Climb: 126m, Area: Brides Hill, Wicklow Coastal Hill (Irelan

  
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Ballyguile Hill: Viewed from the south. Hope you like masts.
simon3 a day ago.
Ballyguile Hill can also be seen well from the south. Here's a view taken from near Brides Hill (a coastal hill near Wicklow Head)

  
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The Eagles Rock: A short but sweet scramble
IainT 2 days ago.
One of the few Irish summits that needs the use of hands by the easiest route. Those happy with exposure can get a good airy scramble (grade 2, pushing 3 maybe), by slanting left up an obvious ram...

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Slieve Foye: Irish Gabbro!
IainT 2 days ago.
Gabbro is one of the roughest and most frictiony rocks around and is superb for scrambling on, as all visitors to the Skye Cuiilin across the water know. I never realised until yesterday that Slie...

  
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Pic du Canigou
David-Guenot 2 days ago.
Ascending Catalogna's sacred mountain from the hamlet of Los Masos de Vallmanya, on well-marked trails, with two breaks walk, Len: 24.8km, Climb: 1853m, Area: France, Occitanie ()

  
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Clermont Carn: Easy but a great view.
IainT 2 days ago.
If you drive up the road this has to be a contender for the easiest summit in Ireland, but it's well worth doing for the superb view. Wicklow to Donegal, with the Meath lowlands spread out like a ...

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Ramble on Ireland's Eye
wicklore 3 days ago.
A short walk on Ireland's Eye in September 2015. Original plan to visit earlier in the summer was thwarted by a huge f... walk, Len: 2.6km, Climb: 80m, Area: Ireland's Eye, Dublin Islands (Ireland) I

  
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Seanadh Bhťara: Access
sandman 3 days ago.
To answer the query raised by TommyV for at the time to facilitate parking on a narrow road and not wishing to park on the N59 i parked beside the farm yard with a view to access the hill via the ...

  
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Windphone project destroyed
wicklore 3 days ago.
The Wind Phone art project in the Dublin Mountains has been destroyed http://jrnl.ie/3547797 . It appears to be a strong statement by those against the idea

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Ireland's Eye: Screams were heard, getting fainter and fainterÖ
wicklore 4 days ago.
Ireland's Eye is situated about 1.5kms north of Howth Harbour. In Celtic times it was called Eriaís Island and then Erinís Island. The Norse called it Erinís Ey and this became Irelandís Eye. (Ey ...

  
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Pic de Cagire Loop
David-Guenot 4 days ago.
A great loop walk in one of my favourite areas in the Pyrenees, which should have hardly taken more than 4h30 hadn't I m walk, Len: 11.8km, Climb: 892m, Area: France, Occitanie ()

  
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Carhoo Hill: Dingle Eask Tower
Collaborative entry Last edit by: aidand 4 days ago.
This is a modest climb, but with wonderful views. Take the road out of Dingle towards Ventry. After about a mile turn left at a sign marked 'Hanlon's handbags'. There is a parking area with a hut ...


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